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Barr: Oh, that's really good! Do you shoot certain types of photos with particular mediums in          mind mind like would this look good on social media, would that be good for the website, or I want to shoot this angle and this kind of photo for a printed publication?

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Chang: That's right. I used to be a wedding photographer, and that's even more like, “Make my arm look slimmer, my face smaller,” or something, but at NIH, sometimes they might ask me if you have another picture [where] my stomach looks small; so if I don't, I'll try to make the stomach look         smaller smaller in Photoshop.

Barr: That's funny. You are on campus a lot during the pandemic so can you discuss what being on campus was like and some of your concerns as well as what did it feel like emotionally? I mean some of these things are major national events.

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Chang: Oh yes. I think it's embarrassing to say the subject I took most during the pandemic personally is the food or vegetable photos. Yeah, I told you I cook a lot and during the pandemic, so I try to photograph what I cook. And also, I plant some vegetables in my backyard garden. Also I'm a member of a NIH Garden Club, so I have a small plot in NIH, so I plant some vegetables and I   try try to photograph it.

Barr: Do you have any other hobbies that have helped you get through the pandemic?

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Chang: I'll pull it up. Hold on one sec.

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Barr:  Okay good.

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